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ForestWander Nature Photography
AfDs for this article: Articles for deletion/ForestWander Nature PhotographyA father and son company that takes photos of rural West Virginia and that gives many of them away via the internet. They were once a finalist in one category of a competition, and I'm willing to believe that there was once an article about them in the Charleston Gazette (although either its server or my browser refuses to display this). And -- plastic at the ready? -- you may choose to purchase the prints too, via the links thoughtfully provided in the article.
However, Wikipedia is not a web directory, the company doesn't seem to have won any competitions, there's no mention of any exhibitions or substantial coverage in any magazines (let alone book-length publication), and it all seems of very minor note; unless of course you want free screensavers of rural West Virginia, in which case Google will no doubt locate them for you.
Moreover, the only contributor of substance to this article has been User:Forestwanderer. I start to suspect COI.
I prodded this article on 6 June. Forestwanderer proceeded to make a number of edits to the page, which to me indicated a desire to keep it; I therefore removed the prod notice myself.
The last of the edits by Forestwanderer has a summary pointing people to further justifications to be read on the talk page. Yes, do take a look: it's quite revealing. -- Hoary (talk) 00:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Seems to be blatent WP:ADVERT and WP:COI. Thetrick (talk) 00:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete there is some notability. A local newspaper article (the link worked when I tried it) And finalist in a Nature Conservancy photo competition is not nothing. But it is not enough to justify an article. It may be that this photographer will gain enough attention to merit an article at some future date.Elan26 (talk) 00:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)Elan26
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Chalkmaster
Non-notable -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 22:00, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. The lack of any non-local coverage and a relatively scant amount of local coverage given the links provided in the article leads me to the same conclusion as that of the nominator. Erechtheus (talk) 01:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete as per above. Artene50 (talk) 02:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete for not notable. Tabor (talk) 02:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions. – David Eppstein (talk) 06:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per above. As a Torontonian myself, his "legend" nevertheless seems to have escaped me. There are plenty of sidewalk chalk artists up here. He seems no more notable then the rest. freshacconcispeaktome 14:46, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable per nom ukexpat (talk) 15:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:N. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 04:44, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Matt Couper
AfDs for this article: Articles for deletion/Matt CouperArticles for deletion/Matt Couper (2nd nomination)conflict of interest: article created by subject, self-promotional, dubious notability Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 20:50, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Delete, unless "presented in major collections throughout New Zealand" can be referenced, and includes public collections as per WP:BIO. Johnbod (talk) 22:33, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. Notability seems marginal at best, no sources other than the artist's own website, and autobiography.-gadfium 22:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. All I can find are some group exhibitions [1], [2] and a $250 prize [3]. Not notable yet.--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 23:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete WP:NN & WP:RS. Esradekan Gibb "Talk" 00:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete This 4 year old article fails WP:BIO and independent WP:RS and was likely made by the subject of the article himself here Artene50 (talk) 01:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Slightly stronger than weak delete. Although WP:UNKNOWNHERE and its corollary are lousy arguments for AfD, I'd have to say that, having worked in the New Zealand art scene for many years as a reviewer and artist, I have heard of him, though not very much. I know he's exhibited at the Sarjeant in Wanganui, though, which is one of the country's better know provincial galleries. Whether it's enough to meet notability standards here, though, I doubt. And I can't find much evidence of his work being in major collections nationwide. BTW, "Matt couper" +art -wikipedia returns some 650 ghits. Grutness...wha? 01:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - I can't find any reliable sources for this article. Soxred 93 03:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - no claim of notability. An artist is expected to have some semi-notable art. --T-rex 03:53, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - I don't turn up any substantial news references to this fellow, and being in collections doesn't really prove notability to my view. Tony Fox (arf!) 05:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per the above Jasynnash2 (talk) 09:00, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Andrew Logan
Makes a lot of claims, but no real assertation of notability. He's had his art everywhere, but I don't see any reliable sources about him. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 18:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Reluctant Keep he's been written about and seems recognised by the press which presumably gets over Notability issues - one of 20 'celebs' in this [4] and known for his Alternative Miss World [5], and seems to be a Derek Jarman short film about him [6] article about him and his museum on BBC [7] though that is local news section.-Hunting dog (talk) 19:48, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
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- oh and in the collection of the National Portrait Gallery [8], that provides an independant citation for the "retrospective was held at the Museum of Modern Art, Oxford, in 1991" *walks away muttering IDONTLIKEIT...* (modern art not anything personal to the BLP)-Hunting dog (talk) 21:44, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions. – David Eppstein (talk) 22:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep "Claims" are assertions of notability, TPH! And in this case they are mostly justified. Certainly notable, though more referencing needed. He was most famous before the internet age, but there will be plenty in print. Johnbod (talk) 22:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep Works in the NPG and the Arts Council collection [9] (it's a Flash site, but he'll show up if you search his name).--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 23:18, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep seems like an article with worthwhile potential...Modernist (talk) 04:41, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep - sufficient reliable sources provided to establish notability. Spartaz Humbug! 21:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Paul Klein (art activist)
Notability not established —G716 <T·C> 18:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Article is of low quality, and importance. DeadmanUndertaker 18:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete have tried looking for ref's but only seems to have local news mentions, so think fails notability - Hunting dog (talk) 20:38, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep and improve. Over 10k ghits for '"Paul Klein" art Chicago', ok lots off his blog, but he seems a notable figure there. Article was created in Feb 7 by a three-edit username, so no help to be expected from there. Johnbod (talk) 10:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Comment - I came back to look at this actually with a view to maybe withdrawing delete, I agree there's lots of cross blog talk about him, but I can't actually source some of the existing claims, though info might be out there somewhere. Re being "a contributor to the New York Times", NYT is pretty well archived but couldn't get hits on this Paul Klein on their site, [10] google search brings up something he wrote for the Chicago Life supplement of the Sunday New York Times (which seems to be a regional advertising supplement). Think article might shrink rather than grow unless someone else is more successful in finding reliable sources for the info. -Hunting dog (talk) 05:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions. – David Eppstein (talk) 04:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. There are plenty of reliable sources found by Google News [11]. I've put some of them in the article. Phil Bridger (talk) 12:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - seems unnecessary advertising, blog ad infinitum. Modernist (talk) 15:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep as revised by Phil Bridger, I feel this satisfies WP:BIO at this time. RFerreira (talk) 16:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep and improve. Paul Klein is a critical faculty in Chicago's art community whose efforts extend beyond curation or self-interest. Well-worth inclusion here. Agreed that a cursory web search yields insufficient background, but sure that sufficient press exists, confident that Wikipedia page is good basis for ongoing compilation, opportunity to review Klein's legacy and impact. Please keep and allow recognition in searches. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rgfunderburk (talk • contribs) 19:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
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Mojtaba Pourmohsen
This page was originally up for speedy deletion under A7, but I declined it
because the article makes claims of notability. I think that this poet might be
notable enough, because he appears to have won national journalism awards and
has been connected to censorship practices in Iran. There aren't a lot of
google hits, but many of them are in Arabic, so I can't read them. I did manage
to find one article in English that mentions him. Overall, I'm ambivalent about
this article. I stand by my declination of the speedy, but if the community
decides that there just isn't enough out there about this guy, it should be
deleted. Danaman5 (talk) 09:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment to add to above: I should also mention that I was searching for the romanization of his name in Google. If you searched for his name written in Arabic script, you would probably get more results. Unfortunately, I don't know Arabic.--Danaman5 (talk) 18:18, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- And I stand by my opinion it should be deleted, my reasoning behind that opinion can be found here.Shoombooly (talk) 09:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 14:45, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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Dora Pavel
I see no reson that this person is notable in the english speaking world. maybe on the romanian wikipedia. also, writer of article repeatedly removed templates from article. Sexy Sea Bassist 16:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. -- Bláthnaid 17:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep The writer has received awards for her work and been written about, which makes her notable. Notability on en.wikipedia is not limited to the English-speaking world. It does not matter what language she writes in, as sources can be translated by editors that speak Romanian. Bláthnaid 17:17, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Independent coverage of subject who's won awards in her field. Sounds notable per WP:BIO to me. WilliamH (talk) 18:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - notable. non-english is not a reason to delete --T-rex 04:01, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep Being notable in Romania (and France) also makes the person notable in the English-speaking world. – sgeureka t•c 12:58, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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Brian Costello
Non-notable writer who fails WP:BIO. His single book, out from a micro-press in the Midwest, fails WP:BK. Qworty (talk) 02:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Gamaliel (talk) 17:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - I did some research and I've added a few references. He gets news coverage through his band (a full article in the Chicago Tribune), for his stage show (the Tribune again for the big article, and other mentions here and there), and multiple reviews of his book. Not the most notable person around, by any means, but should meet the requirements. - Bilby (talk) 09:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep, with the work done by Bilby, I believe he meets the basic criteria in WP:BIO, "he or she has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." --Captain-tucker (talk) 15:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be
reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Shereth 22:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Enough sources found by Bilby to show notability. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Martin Auz
Autobiography, non-notable —G716 <T·C> 19:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Weak delete The subject could find a place on Wikipedia, perhaps as a stub, if the article didn't read like a vanity piece. Ecoleetage (talk) 21:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:05, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete, No reliable sources to establish notability, in addition its probably in violation of WP:COPYVIO as it appears to be a duplicate of his bio on http://www.martinmauz.com/ --Captain-tucker (talk) 16:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be
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Tom Vallance (writer)
Questionable notability, no directly referenced sources. --/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 00:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
- Note discussion is red-linked from article, attempting to fix with this cmt. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 02:04, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Strong Delete. Notability not even asserted, much less demonstrated. Qworty (talk) 10:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Keep. Identifying the subject of the article as a regular writer/columnist/reviewer for at least two major publications, as well as the author of two books in his journalistic area, is certainly an assertion of notability. While Vallance apparently did his most substantial work in the preWeb area, even a rudimentary Google search turns up, for example, a description of him as an "expert" in his field from reliable sources, eg [12]. The Enchantress Of Florence (talk) 04:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Fulfills notability criteria. Shovon (talk) 19:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Strong keep for The Enchantress Of Florence's reasons. ~ Antiselfpromotion (talk) 17:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Note:Since this discussion was never linked properly from the article I have relisted it for discussion. --ÐeadΣyeДrrow (Talk - Contribs) 02:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be
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- Delete unless reliable secondary sources describing the subject can be found. The current article appears to only be based on editor synthesis from primary sources. Whatever his achievements if they can't be verified by citing independent sources it will not be possible to write a neutral, original research free article about the subject. Guest9999 (talk) 04:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. Can't find significant coverage on him. Every writer for a newspaper will have his name palstered throughout Google. But hits alone do not suffice for notability. There must be significant coverage of the article's subject, of which is lacking. Neither is being an "expert" considered notable for Wikipedia purposes. Every expert doesn't require an encyclopedia article written about him. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 04:46, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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The result was keep. John254 16:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Diamond Joe Esposito
NN & spam, author has been spamming other articles with links to this rogerd (talk) 02:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. The spamming behaviour is inappropriate, but I have to say keep for the article on Diamond Joe, despite it's current poor quality. Putting aside the issue of whether his books make him notable or not, I would say he's a notable figure for the role he played in Elvis Presley's life, and there are certainly a bunch of third-party references I can find on the internet. However, I think it would not be inappropriate to consider moving the page, since he is really the namesake of the "real" Diamond Joe. I think this particular page should probably be a DAB page that links to both Diamond Joes.
- Comment. Incidentally, User:V0taire (the spammer) deleted the AfD template from the article. Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be
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- Keep. Notability is clearly demonstrated by the sources found by Google Books and Google News, including [13] [14] [15] [16]. Editor behaviour should be dealt with by discussion, warnings, blocks etc., not by deleting articles on notable subjects. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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